Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>

Age of Strategy Music
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Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 10. 15:54
Címzett: zerotouchsystems@gmail.com
Hi,

I really like Age of Strategy and I want to help you get some background music.  I own the rights to some good recordings and I could let you use them for free.  With a little editing I think they could work for your game.

From this I think track 2 "Doria Colonna" and track 21 "Cantiga 282"
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/balletto/id326744167
My mom is the harpist and I was recording engineer.

From this I think maybe track 9 "Though Philomela Lost Her Love" and 10 "Earl of Oxford's March"
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/masterworks-for-brass-from/id259240769
I was the French Horn player on that cd.

I also have some ideas for other tracks, such as bagpipe, flute (my wife plays flute).  I think a variety of tracks would really help so you can have different songs on each map.  All free of course this is just a fun thing for me to do.

Let me know what you think!

Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com


Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 10. 19:31
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Hello!

WOAA! 
They are awesome! 
And thank you so much for offering them! 
I will be happily put them in!

What do you think, should the game select which one to play, or you thought to implement only one of them?
I am only worried about the size of the music in bytes, what is the size of these?

Thanks and Thanks again!

daniel

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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 12. 4:00
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

What file type do you want for the music files? Probably Monday I'll have time to see how low we can go on the bit rate and have it sound decent.  Also I'll cut the songs shorter and make them mono and give you a few options.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell
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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 12. 7:36
Címzett: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
format: i checked and found this as supported formats and preferred bitrate: http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html, and i have found a few forum posts saying that the OGG file is the mostly used, but in the table (under the link) i see there are various usable types, so we can choose any of them (we need to choose one that is available in all platforms - shown in table).

bitrate: ok! (also check the recommendation under the link, thanks!)

Thank you so much! 

Daniel

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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 12. 20:33
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

I read that .ogg sounds better at low bit rates than the other types so we'll go with that. Monday or Tuesday I'll send you stuff. I checked with the other people involved with the recordings and they said we're good to go as long as we add a link to their websites somewhere in the documentation.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 12. 21:00
Címzett: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
thanks!

link: sure!

thanks!
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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 14. 13:29
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

Attached are 4 music files.  They are 64 kbps .ogg 16 bit mono. And the volume is about -11 so they fit with your sound effects.  I'll send another one or two tonight so you have some more options. Don't have to use all of them if you are worried about file size.

Please add something like this to the documentation:
Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Harp1.ogg
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Brass1.ogg
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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 6:20
Címzett: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Thank you so much!

I have compiled two of them into the game, will you check it in the dev version? (to get the dev version u will need to unintall the stock version)

i have more work with it, the current is to be able to check how it sounds.

How can i refer your name in the "version changes" file?

daniel
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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 11:24
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
I just registered for the forum, but I'm not sure how to get the dev version. I uninstalled the regular version.

My forum name is Boogersurfer at email hurrelljon@gmail.com

Refer to me either as Boogersurfer or Jon Hurrell, however you normally do it.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 11:46
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>

From here: http://www.androidutils.com/apk/a.apk

From my Mobile

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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 12:15
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Sorry, I'm still not finding it. I can see the posts about version changes but I haven't found the download link.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 17:01
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>

I ve sent it in my prev. Email

From my Mobile

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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 19:05
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
i am home now.
have u succeded installing the dev version? this was the link: http://www.androidutils.com/apk/a.apk
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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 19:55
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Oh I got it! I have a new phone and didn't realize that it had downloaded the file several times. Duh.

The music sounds good!  I suppose you could leave it with just the two songs for size reasons. If you ever want more music for variety's sake let me know.

If you can add these links to the game somewhere in help or docs I'd appreciate it!
Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com

Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 20:00
Címzett: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
ok! 
which links exactly?
(i have the help and i have version log. nothing else at the moment.)
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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 21:16
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Add these perhaps to both the help file and version log, if that's ok! Unless you plan on making a button with the names of the people that helped with the game, then that would be a more appropriate place for these links:

Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 15. 21:40
Címzett: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
ok! i will put them in!
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Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 17. 4:20
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

I found another .ogg converter that let me do 32 kbps, so here are the files again but half the size.  I think they still sound good enough, and maybe now you could put the other songs in and have it alternate which song is played during the game.  Or just keep the two songs and save the file size.






Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com

On Oct 15, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Mézes Zerotouch wrote:

ok! i will put them in!

2014-10-15 21:16 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Add these perhaps to both the help file and version log, if that's ok! Unless you plan on making a button with the names of the people that helped with the game, then that would be a more appropriate place for these links:

Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/15/2014 2:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

ok! 
which links exactly?
(i have the help and i have version log. nothing else at the moment.)

2014-10-15 19:55 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Oh I got it! I have a new phone and didn't realize that it had downloaded the file several times. Duh.

The music sounds good!  I suppose you could leave it with just the two songs for size reasons. If you ever want more music for variety's sake let me know.

If you can add these links to the game somewhere in help or docs I'd appreciate it!
Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com

Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/15/2014 1:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

i am home now.
have u succeded installing the dev version? this was the link: http://www.androidutils.com/apk/a.apk

2014-10-15 17:01 GMT+02:00 Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>:

I ve sent it in my prev. Email

From my Mobile

2014.10.15. 12:15 ezt írta ("Jon Hurrell" <hurrelljon@gmail.com>):

Sorry, I'm still not finding it. I can see the posts about version changes but I haven't found the download link.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/15/2014 5:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

From here: http://www.androidutils.com/apk/a.apk

From my Mobile

2014.10.15. 11:24 ezt írta ("Jon Hurrell" <hurrelljon@gmail.com>):
I just registered for the forum, but I'm not sure how to get the dev version. I uninstalled the regular version.

My forum name is Boogersurfer at email hurrelljon@gmail.com

Refer to me either as Boogersurfer or Jon Hurrell, however you normally do it.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/15/2014 12:20 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

Thank you so much!

I have compiled two of them into the game, will you check it in the dev version? (to get the dev version u will need to unintall the stock version)

i have more work with it, the current is to be able to check how it sounds.

How can i refer your name in the "version changes" file?

daniel

2014-10-14 13:29 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

Attached are 4 music files.  They are 64 kbps .ogg 16 bit mono. And the volume is about -11 so they fit with your sound effects.  I'll send another one or two tonight so you have some more options. Don't have to use all of them if you are worried about file size.

Please add something like this to the documentation:
Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/12/2014 3:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

thanks!

link: sure!

thanks!

2014-10-12 20:33 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

I read that .ogg sounds better at low bit rates than the other types so we'll go with that. Monday or Tuesday I'll send you stuff. I checked with the other people involved with the recordings and they said we're good to go as long as we add a link to their websites somewhere in the documentation.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/12/2014 1:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

format: i checked and found this as supported formats and preferred bitrate: http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html, and i have found a few forum posts saying that the OGG file is the mostly used, but in the table (under the link) i see there are various usable types, so we can choose any of them (we need to choose one that is available in all platforms - shown in table).

bitrate: ok! (also check the recommendation under the link, thanks!)

Thank you so much! 

Daniel


2014-10-12 4:00 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

What file type do you want for the music files? Probably Monday I'll have time to see how low we can go on the bit rate and have it sound decent.  Also I'll cut the songs shorter and make them mono and give you a few options.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/10/2014 1:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

Hello!

WOAA! 
They are awesome! 
And thank you so much for offering them! 
I will be happily put them in!

What do you think, should the game select which one to play, or you thought to implement only one of them?
I am only worried about the size of the music in bytes, what is the size of these?

Thanks and Thanks again!

daniel


2014-10-10 15:54 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Hi,

I really like Age of Strategy and I want to help you get some background music.  I own the rights to some good recordings and I could let you use them for free.  With a little editing I think they could work for your game.

From this I think track 2 "Doria Colonna" and track 21 "Cantiga 282"
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/balletto/id326744167
My mom is the harpist and I was recording engineer.

From this I think maybe track 9 "Though Philomela Lost Her Love" and 10 "Earl of Oxford's March"
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/masterworks-for-brass-from/id259240769
I was the French Horn player on that cd.

I also have some ideas for other tracks, such as bagpipe, flute (my wife plays flute).  I think a variety of tracks would really help so you can have different songs on each map.  All free of course this is just a fun thing for me to do.

Let me know what you think!

Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com











4 melléklet
Brass1_smaller.ogg
287K
Brass2_smaller.ogg
208K
Harp1_smaller.ogg
207K
Harp2_smaller.ogg
286K

Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 17. 7:40
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
cool! thanks!

i will replace them!

and i must say i love them! i always play games with the music turned on since we put it in ! :)

question1: is it a good idea if i make a list of in-game songs from these, and the game engine on game launch randomizes which one to start and the chosen one will last (looped) forever during the play?
question2: as you know there is a fantasy version under development and a starwars version too, can i ask you to select one "menu-music" and one or more "in-game-music" song for them too? I would be glad - and i think that you may have so many music types recorded, that can be fitted to these game "themes" too.

thanks!
daniel

2014-10-17 4:20 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

I found another .ogg converter that let me do 32 kbps, so here are the files again but half the size.  I think they still sound good enough, and maybe now you could put the other songs in and have it alternate which song is played during the game.  Or just keep the two songs and save the file size.






Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com

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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. október 17. 15:10
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Yes since the music loops it should not change in the middle of a game.  But if it selects a song randomly at the start of each game then the players won't get tired of hearing one song over and over. I think this will help players play more than one map and stay entertained, and add variety to campaigns.

Sure I'll work on the other games! It may take me a couple of weeks to decide on the music and create it. I'll let you know when I've got some ideas.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. október 17. 19:36
Címzett: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
randomize: ok!

other games: thank you so much! and no rush!
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HurrellJon . <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. november 15. 22:39
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

Ok I didn't have music that was just perfect for your Fantasy version, so I made some new music just for you!  I hope you like it... it's synthesized but I think sounds enough like a real orchestra that most people will like it.  I imitated the Lord of the Rings soundtrack a bit.  I used the same filetype(.ogg), bit-rate(32kbps), and volume(-16dB peak) as last time.

Once you get the music in I'd like a link to the dev version of this game as well so I can hear how it fits with the sound effects.  Thanks!

-Jon
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Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell

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AgeofFantasy1.ogg
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AgeofFantasy2.ogg
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AgeofFantasy3.ogg
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AgeofFantasy4.ogg
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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. november 15. 23:18
Címzett: "HurrellJon ." <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
thanks! they are awesome! i just put all of them in!

here is the link where you can see how they sound!

(the harp1 remained the menu theme as in AOS - because that feels like we are sitting in an inn and listening to a bard - awesome! And i feel that the menu should keep that feeling.
And new AOF songs 1,4,2  are my favorites so they are in the game (when game in progress) - my extra favorites are 1 and 4 where i recognized the LOTR tunes !   Thanks!)

thank you so so much!

daniel

(sound effects: they are currently pretty the same as AOS - I did not have time to have orc roaring, or serpent hissing, or any fantasy version effects)
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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. november 16. 20:14
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

I like the new game so far! But that's easy because I already liked AOS.

I had intended the the first track to be used for the menu because it's more laid back than the others.  Maybe give it a try and see what you think?  If you really want a more 'bard in the inn' sound for that I could find or make you another track with a similar sound.  I think different music is important to make this game seem not the same as AOS.  Overall I was going for more epic as opposed to historical.  It's funny you recognized the theme, I made it up for this game but it sounds very much like the LOTR music, doesn't it?

Also, for track 3 was it the choir that was too much? I did that because it's a very popular sound in LOTR and warcraft.  I could easily make a choir-less version.

I can help with sound effects too.  Send me a list of what you need as well as the files for your current sounds so I can make them sound similar.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. november 16. 23:50
Címzett: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Hello!

bard inn: that would be awesome an other barding feeling music for the AOF menu! Thanks!
LOTR: yes i recognized it and they are cool! :)
track3: it was nice, but the music was so (i dont know english well to find good words) but it was so intensive so my pulse raised high, so i think a little lighter tones would be better, i think we do not want people to get pumped up too much, maybe a voluming down could do or less choirs? i dont know :)
sound effects for AOF: that would be awesome! actually AOF has no any new sound effects, only AOS effects i have, AOF will need new ones to the special races/units, like orc, elf, undead sounds.

sound effect on AOS: there also needed something to change, less speaking because many players told me that it is too much they talk, so eg. a swordman should say things more rarely, and most times only some kind of muttering, or any short-low noices when seleted and rarely speaking like "yes mylord".

Thanks you so much for any help in these!

here are attached all sound file in the game currently

thanks!

daniel

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sound.zip
887K

Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. november 30. 5:56
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

Ok, hopefully I'm done with this music now:
Track1: mostly harp (bard sound) but with some strings to fit in with the rest of the tracks.  This one is intended for the menu.
Track2: no change
Track3: Less intense! I changed the instruments around so it is more calm.
Track4: One part was too quiet, but otherwise no change.

I'll get working on the sound effects, I'll probably post something on the forum to get some more ideas first.





Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com

On Nov 16, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Mézes Zerotouch wrote:

Hello!

bard inn: that would be awesome an other barding feeling music for the AOF menu! Thanks!
LOTR: yes i recognized it and they are cool! :)
track3: it was nice, but the music was so (i dont know english well to find good words) but it was so intensive so my pulse raised high, so i think a little lighter tones would be better, i think we do not want people to get pumped up too much, maybe a voluming down could do or less choirs? i dont know :)
sound effects for AOF: that would be awesome! actually AOF has no any new sound effects, only AOS effects i have, AOF will need new ones to the special races/units, like orc, elf, undead sounds.

sound effect on AOS: there also needed something to change, less speaking because many players told me that it is too much they talk, so eg. a swordman should say things more rarely, and most times only some kind of muttering, or any short-low noices when seleted and rarely speaking like "yes mylord".

Thanks you so much for any help in these!

here are attached all sound file in the game currently

thanks!

daniel


2014-11-16 20:14 GMT+01:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

I like the new game so far! But that's easy because I already liked AOS.

I had intended the the first track to be used for the menu because it's more laid back than the others.  Maybe give it a try and see what you think?  If you really want a more 'bard in the inn' sound for that I could find or make you another track with a similar sound.  I think different music is important to make this game seem not the same as AOS.  Overall I was going for more epic as opposed to historical.  It's funny you recognized the theme, I made it up for this game but it sounds very much like the LOTR music, doesn't it?

Also, for track 3 was it the choir that was too much? I did that because it's a very popular sound in LOTR and warcraft.  I could easily make a choir-less version.

I can help with sound effects too.  Send me a list of what you need as well as the files for your current sounds so I can make them sound similar.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:11/15/2014 5:18 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: "HurrellJon ." <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

thanks! they are awesome! i just put all of them in!

here is the link where you can see how they sound!

(the harp1 remained the menu theme as in AOS - because that feels like we are sitting in an inn and listening to a bard - awesome! And i feel that the menu should keep that feeling.
And new AOF songs 1,4,2  are my favorites so they are in the game (when game in progress) - my extra favorites are 1 and 4 where i recognized the LOTR tunes !   Thanks!)

thank you so so much!

daniel

(sound effects: they are currently pretty the same as AOS - I did not have time to have orc roaring, or serpent hissing, or any fantasy version effects)

2014-11-15 22:39 GMT+01:00 HurrellJon . <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

Ok I didn't have music that was just perfect for your Fantasy version, so I made some new music just for you!  I hope you like it... it's synthesized but I think sounds enough like a real orchestra that most people will like it.  I imitated the Lord of the Rings soundtrack a bit.  I used the same filetype(.ogg), bit-rate(32kbps), and volume(-16dB peak) as last time.

Once you get the music in I'd like a link to the dev version of this game as well so I can hear how it fits with the sound effects.  Thanks!

-Jon

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com> wrote:
randomize: ok!

other games: thank you so much! and no rush!

2014-10-17 15:10 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Yes since the music loops it should not change in the middle of a game.  But if it selects a song randomly at the start of each game then the players won't get tired of hearing one song over and over. I think this will help players play more than one map and stay entertained, and add variety to campaigns.

Sure I'll work on the other games! It may take me a couple of weeks to decide on the music and create it. I'll let you know when I've got some ideas.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/17/2014 1:40 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

cool! thanks!

i will replace them!

and i must say i love them! i always play games with the music turned on since we put it in ! :)

question1: is it a good idea if i make a list of in-game songs from these, and the game engine on game launch randomizes which one to start and the chosen one will last (looped) forever during the play?
question2: as you know there is a fantasy version under development and a starwars version too, can i ask you to select one "menu-music" and one or more "in-game-music" song for them too? I would be glad - and i think that you may have so many music types recorded, that can be fitted to these game "themes" too.

thanks!
daniel

2014-10-17 4:20 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

I found another .ogg converter that let me do 32 kbps, so here are the files again but half the size.  I think they still sound good enough, and maybe now you could put the other songs in and have it alternate which song is played during the game.  Or just keep the two songs and save the file size.






Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com

On Oct 15, 2014, at 3:40 PM, Mézes Zerotouch wrote:

ok! i will put them in!

2014-10-15 21:16 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Add these perhaps to both the help file and version log, if that's ok! Unless you plan on making a button with the names of the people that helped with the game, then that would be a more appropriate place for these links:

Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/15/2014 2:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

ok! 
which links exactly?
(i have the help and i have version log. nothing else at the moment.)

2014-10-15 19:55 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Oh I got it! I have a new phone and didn't realize that it had downloaded the file several times. Duh.

The music sounds good!  I suppose you could leave it with just the two songs for size reasons. If you ever want more music for variety's sake let me know.

If you can add these links to the game somewhere in help or docs I'd appreciate it!
Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com

Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/15/2014 1:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

i am home now.
have u succeded installing the dev version? this was the link: http://www.androidutils.com/apk/a.apk

2014-10-15 17:01 GMT+02:00 Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>:

I ve sent it in my prev. Email

From my Mobile

2014.10.15. 12:15 ezt írta ("Jon Hurrell" <hurrelljon@gmail.com>):

Sorry, I'm still not finding it. I can see the posts about version changes but I haven't found the download link.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/15/2014 5:46 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

From here: http://www.androidutils.com/apk/a.apk

From my Mobile

2014.10.15. 11:24 ezt írta ("Jon Hurrell" <hurrelljon@gmail.com>):
I just registered for the forum, but I'm not sure how to get the dev version. I uninstalled the regular version.

My forum name is Boogersurfer at email hurrelljon@gmail.com

Refer to me either as Boogersurfer or Jon Hurrell, however you normally do it.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/15/2014 12:20 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

Thank you so much!

I have compiled two of them into the game, will you check it in the dev version? (to get the dev version u will need to unintall the stock version)

i have more work with it, the current is to be able to check how it sounds.

How can i refer your name in the "version changes" file?

daniel

2014-10-14 13:29 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

Attached are 4 music files.  They are 64 kbps .ogg 16 bit mono. And the volume is about -11 so they fit with your sound effects.  I'll send another one or two tonight so you have some more options. Don't have to use all of them if you are worried about file size.

Please add something like this to the documentation:
Music by:
Jonathan Hurrell, http://zweiforce.com


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/12/2014 3:00 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

thanks!

link: sure!

thanks!

2014-10-12 20:33 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

I read that .ogg sounds better at low bit rates than the other types so we'll go with that. Monday or Tuesday I'll send you stuff. I checked with the other people involved with the recordings and they said we're good to go as long as we add a link to their websites somewhere in the documentation.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/12/2014 1:36 AM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

format: i checked and found this as supported formats and preferred bitrate: http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html, and i have found a few forum posts saying that the OGG file is the mostly used, but in the table (under the link) i see there are various usable types, so we can choose any of them (we need to choose one that is available in all platforms - shown in table).

bitrate: ok! (also check the recommendation under the link, thanks!)

Thank you so much! 

Daniel


2014-10-12 4:00 GMT+02:00 Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

What file type do you want for the music files? Probably Monday I'll have time to see how low we can go on the bit rate and have it sound decent.  Also I'll cut the songs shorter and make them mono and give you a few options.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date:10/10/2014 1:31 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Cc:
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

Hello!

WOAA! 
They are awesome! 
And thank you so much for offering them! 
I will be happily put them in!

What do you think, should the game select which one to play, or you thought to implement only one of them?
I am only worried about the size of the music in bytes, what is the size of these?

Thanks and Thanks again!

daniel


2014-10-10 15:54 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Hi,

I really like Age of Strategy and I want to help you get some background music.  I own the rights to some good recordings and I could let you use them for free.  With a little editing I think they could work for your game.

From this I think track 2 "Doria Colonna" and track 21 "Cantiga 282"
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/balletto/id326744167
My mom is the harpist and I was recording engineer.

From this I think maybe track 9 "Though Philomela Lost Her Love" and 10 "Earl of Oxford's March"
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/masterworks-for-brass-from/id259240769
I was the French Horn player on that cd.

I also have some ideas for other tracks, such as bagpipe, flute (my wife plays flute).  I think a variety of tracks would really help so you can have different songs on each map.  All free of course this is just a fun thing for me to do.

Let me know what you think!

Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com















--
Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. november 30. 7:47
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
sounds cool! 
Thanks!
I cant wait to hear them!
(i did not see attachments, will you send it later or you only forgot to attach? )

daniel

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Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com

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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. november 30. 7:50
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
oh, i just found 2 ogg files AOF1b, 3b, 4b.
i am checking them - thanks!
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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. november 30. 8:04
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
ok! 
see my attachments, i have these in game already (i hope i have not mixed up anything)
i kept the old number 1 track as "in game",  and the new number 1 comes as menu track.

do u think it is ok?

thanks for the modifications, i am so lucky having you! :)
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Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. november 30. 15:39
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Great! I just posted in the forum about sound effects, and I have a small portable sound recorder so I can get a variety of voices.


Thanks,

Jon Hurrell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. november 30. 19:39
Címzett: Jon Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
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Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2014. december 28. 21:34
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

Here's some new voices for your game! The elf is a little funny, but hopefully the others are ok.  Let me know if you want anything different.


Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com

new_fx.zip
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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. december 28. 23:00
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
they are awesome! and they are small ! thanks!
and yes: the elf sounds like they were little fairies - but they are humanoids :)

a special request for AOS: i had some user-request on "light"ing the voices, and true... they are to much: so i think the current voices should be more rare than a new default ultra-short sound when you select any unit, like a sniff, or a something pretty little something. i almost chose this: worker_huh.ogg this is almost that what is thought but still a bit too long, so i dont know... we need one as short as the button presses do in android... but using a human voice, or a sound a movement of a unit, like when he turns to the commander for an order - tell me if you dont understand what i mean! :)

thank you so much for the great sounds - i am putting them in immediately! (except the elf ones :))

daniel

2014-12-28 21:34 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

Here's some new voices for your game! The elf is a little funny, but hopefully the others are ok.  Let me know if you want anything different.


Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com


Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. december 28. 23:04
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
+ i put the worker_huh.ogg into AOS and i thing it is a little louder than the existing ones, i have attached them - please check for me!

(i am not good ad sounds either - so maybe the existing ones are not in the same level either :))
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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. december 28. 23:37
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
++
(third email as response)
i have these kind of sound categories now:
- unit selected
- unit affirms move
- unit attacks
- unit damaged
- unit converts

here in AOF we will need more 
eg: - unit casts spell


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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2014. december 28. 23:46
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
(and here is my 4th answer)

Q: the worker is ment to be a human worker?
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Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2015. január 19. 2:17
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Daniel,

I haven't had time to make any shorter sounds, but here are all of the same ones I sent before just a little quieter.  I'm hoping to have a little time next week to make a few short sounds.


Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com

On Dec 28, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Mézes Zerotouch wrote:

(and here is my 4th answer)

Q: the worker is ment to be a human worker?

2014-12-28 23:37 GMT+01:00 Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>:
++
(third email as response)
i have these kind of sound categories now:
- unit selected
- unit affirms move
- unit attacks
- unit damaged
- unit converts

here in AOF we will need more 
eg: - unit casts spell



2014-12-28 23:04 GMT+01:00 Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>:
+ i put the worker_huh.ogg into AOS and i thing it is a little louder than the existing ones, i have attached them - please check for me!

(i am not good ad sounds either - so maybe the existing ones are not in the same level either :))

2014-12-28 23:00 GMT+01:00 Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>:
they are awesome! and they are small ! thanks!
and yes: the elf sounds like they were little fairies - but they are humanoids :)

a special request for AOS: i had some user-request on "light"ing the voices, and true... they are to much: so i think the current voices should be more rare than a new default ultra-short sound when you select any unit, like a sniff, or a something pretty little something. i almost chose this: worker_huh.ogg this is almost that what is thought but still a bit too long, so i dont know... we need one as short as the button presses do in android... but using a human voice, or a sound a movement of a unit, like when he turns to the commander for an order - tell me if you dont understand what i mean! :)

thank you so much for the great sounds - i am putting them in immediately! (except the elf ones :))

daniel

2014-12-28 21:34 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

Here's some new voices for your game! The elf is a little funny, but hopefully the others are ok.  Let me know if you want anything different.


Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com







new_fx_quieter.zip
208K

Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2015. január 22. 21:43
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
thanks! i have changed all sounds to the new ones! thanks! 

2015-01-19 2:17 GMT+01:00 Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>:
Daniel,

I haven't had time to make any shorter sounds, but here are all of the same ones I sent before just a little quieter.  I'm hoping to have a little time next week to make a few short sounds.


Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell
(617)750-4774
hurrelljon@gmail.com

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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2016. április 7. 0:03
Címzett: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Hello! 

I am Daniel, the developer of Age Of Strategy and Age of Fantasy, i am not sure if you are still playing the game or not :)

It is more than a year we have last talked. I hope you are doing well! 

Sorry for bothering, but I ask about your copyright restrictions in YouTube.
All videos any player posts on YouTube receives an email that he was violationg your copyright (because your nice music is on the video too - as it is part of the game).

I hope that you will not ask me to remove your nice music from the games :)

Also if you let me use your music further (as i know those was a little customized to my game(s)), than can i ask you to tell the YouTube that any post useing this music in a video about AOS/AOF is not a violation? 
(perhaps my request is not proper - because i have no knowledge about these copyright things in YouTube, and how these things work)

Thanks!
daniel

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hurrelljon <hurrelljon@gmail.com>2016. április 7. 13:21
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Hey Daniel, nice to hear from you!

Youtube has a database of copyrighted music and scans each video upload to see if the video contains copyrighted music.  AoS does use copyrighted music, but my friend Bobby and my mother are the owners of those copyrights and they have given you permission to use it in your game.  AoF music is not copyrighted.

See this for explanation of copyright:

Please tell anyone who uploads videos to ignore the warnings, and do not worry about copyright infringement. They have permission from the owners of the music.  I can't stop the warning emails from YouTube because it is part of a bigger system to protect music download sales on iTunes and other sites.

I still play AoF. Very fun! Let me know if you ever want more music or sounds.


Thanks,

Jonathan Hurrell


-------- Original message --------
From: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Date: 4/6/2016 6:03 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: Jonathan Hurrell <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Age of Strategy Music

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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2016. április 7. 19:54
Címzett: CoolGuy james Epp <bikingpastor@gmail.com>

:)

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james Epp <bikingpastor@gmail.com>2016. április 7. 19:56
Címzett: Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>
Yay sounds good! :)
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Mézes Zerotouch <zerotouchsystems@gmail.com>2016. április 9. 20:07
Címzett: hurrelljon <hurrelljon@gmail.com>
Thanks for you kindness! And i will do as you suggest!

new music: thanks again for your offer! i will surely contact you :) (we are working on WW2 and StarWars verisons)

i hope the links brought you some customers and worth the effort making musics for my games! if you think I could put your links to a better place feel free to suggest any better place!

daniel
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